In 1994, in Vrindavana, after the Gour-purnima festival in Mayapur, I showed these to two of the first initiates, Jadurani dasi, and Satsvarupa Dasa.  The two documents were being displayed, in incased glass frames, at my table where I was giving out free  color copies to anyone who wanted them.  At separate occasions during the festival, each of them came up to the table in the guest-house lobby, and were staring intensely at them; as well at all the photos I was giving away and selling.  They each looked at them;  or a few minutes, bending over, to the low table, to get a really good look at the framed documents.  Since I knew that they would be able to authenticate them, I took the two documents out from the picture-frames, and handed them over to each of them, and ask each of them,

“Would you please authenticate them, as being the Original-Handwritten ones by Srila Prabhupada, in 1965 after you got initiated?”

Frist,, Satsvarupa came toe table to look at the photos of Prabhupada, that I had taken in 1974 during Prabhupada's First Ever Guru Puja.  When I handed the two documents to Satsvarupa first, he said,

“Yes, these are definitely the originals, I have no doubt about that!”

Then a short while later, Jadurani came to my table.  When I handed them to Jadurani, she looked at them very closely; especially at the top right- and left-hand comers of each document.  She examined them much closer than Satvarupa.  Then she held out in front of me and said,

“Yes, these are the originals.  See the pin holes at the top of each page?  One morning, a few weeks after our initiation, Prabhupada pinned them to door of the bathroom.  The page with his signature, he pinned to the front of the door.  Each morning we would line up to take our bath, the devotee at the front, would then be able to read it, and digest it while they were waiting to take their turn inside the bathroom.  Then when the devotee was inside the bathroom, they would get to read the instructions on second page; again, having some minutes to absorb them.”

Then she moved them closer to me, and said,

“See!  See, these pin holes at the top of each page?”

Naturally, I gave each of them a 8x10 Color Photo of the Two Documents, and I also told them that they could take any of the Photos of Srila Prabhupada, as the like.  I had 4x6, 7x9, 8x10, and large one 18x19.  To Brahmacaris, and Sannaysis, I gave these items away for free.  On the Website Content Page, you can see the different photos, I am talking about

These documents were found in the Safe in the office of the GBC and BBT Trustee, Karandar Dasa.  Parvat-muni Dasa, was one of a string of temple Presidents, at the Los Angeles Temple, in 1970's.   Eventually, he got frustrated and had-it, with the politics, that he had endured with the two current GBC's, (Rameswara-dasa, also a BBT Trustee, and Jayatirtha dasa).   I did not know him personally, but he knew of my accomplishments at my service at Spiritual Sky Scented Products Inc (SSSP).  So, came to me before he resigned, and asked me if there was any position available at SSSSP?   I was actually looking for someone to take over as the Manager of Production, and Shipping.  I hired him, and he did a great job, until sometime, in 1978 or 79, I do not remember, he decided, that he was going to return to Seattle Washington.  I came to his home to say fare-well, on the day he was to leave; for we had biome truly good friends.  At that time, he showed me the documents, and simply said,

“Upendranath, I think you should have these!”

I looked at them for a while, with amazement.  So, I said,

“I in all of years as a devote, I had never seen them, or was aware that they even existed.”

  So, I then asked Paravat-muni,

“How did you get these?”

He replied,

“When I was the Temple TP, my office was the same office as Karandar's when he was the GBC.  In that office, there is a very large and very secure safe that he used.  Naturally, being the TP, I knew the combination to the safe, so that I could use it in my service.  When I decided to resigned, I looked at all the documents, that were stored in the safe, and I was surprised to see them myself, and wondered why I had not been ever seen them myself.  I never before looked at the document stored in the section where that was used by the BBT Trustee, I only concerned myself with the documents in that was used by the Temple TP.  I guess my frustration with our GBC's, as I have explained to you in detail; I got somewhat bold, so I took them.”

It is very logical, to think, that the Karandar dasa, a GBC & BBT Trustee of ISKCON would have possession of  the originals. 

Hence, I, the possessor of these documents since the late 1970’s until today 2022, will soon have forensics performed, by a qualified professional, to determine if the paper, and ink, is genuine.  Moreover, that the ink used, is genuine fountain-pen ink, that Prabhupada used in those early years of his mission.  In other words, to prove that hose two document are not printed reproductions of any kind.  I also promise to post on this page, the results of such forensics.