In Vaikuntha not Even the Leaves Fall
The Origin of the Jiva Controversy

First Wave : Siddhantas

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Setting the Scene 

This Book is the Result of Controversy. In writing it We Were Advised to Downplay the Controversial Aspect

This Book is the Result of Controversy. In writing it We Were Advised to Downplay the Controversial Aspect

The Above Letter Sets the Stage. We Want Our Readers to Note Some of the Salient Features of This Letter

In Vaikuntha not Even the Leaves “Fall”

Chapters in “First Wave”
 

Chapter “One”: The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura.

Chapter “Two”: More on the Teaching of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura.

Chapter “Three”: e Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada

Chapter “Four”: The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Prabhupada.

Chapter “Five”:  Evidence From Other Acaryas, and From Sruti & Smrti.

Chapter “Six”: Srila Jiva Goswami, No One Falls from Vaikuntha. 

Chapter “Seven”: Nitya-muktas Never Contact the Material Energy.

Chapter “Eight”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 1

Chapter “Nine”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 2

Chapter “Ten”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 3

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Chapter One

The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura 

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Part-1: In ISKCON, the Question of the Origin of the Jiva Has Come up Again and Again From the Very Beginning”  

Part-2: When We Study the Writings of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, We Find That Whereas Other Acaryas Previously Explained Anadi in Philosophical Terms he Explained it in a Novel Way    

Part-3: The Essence is That There are Three Types of Jivas 

Part-4: A Class of “Weak” Jivas Exist to Enable the Lord, Who is Lilamaya, to Have the Full Range of Lila    

Part-5: “If the Jiva had not Been Given Independence, What Would Have Been the Loss?”

 

Chapter Two

More from the Teachings of Bhaktivinoda Thakura

 

Part-1: In Jaiva Dharma, Chapter Sixteen, Bhaktivinoda Thakura defines the meaning of anadi karma 

Part-2: The bird And the Pippala Fruit

 Part-3:  The Problem is That we try to Understand the Eternal, Spiritual Objects With our Material Mind

 
 

Chapter Three

The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada

 

Part-1: But so Long as he (jiva), Remains Submissive to Krishna, the Lord of Maya, he is not Liable to the Influence of Maya.

Part-2: This does not Mention Fall From Vaikuntha, but From Tatastha, Which is the Marginal Potency, Situated Between the Spiritual and Material Potencies

Part-3: Ideas Such as Falling From Vaikuntha are Illogical

 

Chapter Four

The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Prabhupada

 

Part 1: From the teachings of Srila Prabhupada, it is explicit that he has sometimes said that no one falls from Vaikuntha, and sometimes that we fell from Krishna’s association

 Part-2:  Fall-vadis insist that the jiva, even if a nitya-siddha, can do something foolish.  He can misuse his minute free will and opt to enjoy maya

Part-3: Sat-sandarbhas of Srila Jiva Gosvami, which is the very book mentioned by Srila Prabhupada as having all the conclusions of our philosophy

Part-4:  Anyone who is in this material world, nitya-baddha.  And nitya-siddhas, they belong to the spiritual world.  They never come in contact with this material world, and even they come for some business under the order of the Supreme Lord, they do not touch these material qualities

 

Chapter Five

Evidence From Other Acaryas, and From Sruti & Smrti 

 

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Chapter Six

Srila Jiva Goswami, No One Falls from Vaikuntha

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Chapter Seven

Nitya-muktas Never Contact the Material Energy

 

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Chapter Eight

The Meaning of Anadi-

 

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Chapter Nine

The Meaning Anadi-II

 

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Chapter Ten

The meaning of Anadi-III

 

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“ Click”: Here for “Links” to Other “In Vaikuntha not Even the Leaves Fall” WAVE Contents Menus

Setting the Scene 

This Book is the Result of Controversy. In writing it We Were Advised to Downplay the Controversial Aspect

This Book is the Result of Controversy. In writing it We Were Advised to Downplay the Controversial Aspect

The Above Letter Sets the Stage. We Want Our Readers to Note Some of the Salient Features of This Letter

In Vaikuntha not Even the Leaves “Fall”

Chapters in “First Wave”
 

Chapter “One”: The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura.

Chapter “Two”: More on the Teaching of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura.

Chapter “Three”: e Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada

Chapter “Four”: The Origin of the Jiva According to Srila Prabhupada.

Chapter “Five”:  Evidence From Other Acaryas, and From Sruti & Smrti.

Chapter “Six”: Srila Jiva Goswami, No One Falls from Vaikuntha. 

Chapter “Seven”: Nitya-muktas Never Contact the Material Energy.

Chapter “Eight”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 1

Chapter “Nine”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 2

Chapter “Ten”: The Meaning of ‘Anadi’.Part 3

Second to Fifth Waves are Being Edited and Formatted for Posting to Website

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